Young Matt Chinn BANNED from the CCC
UPDATE: 11PM******************************************
Young Matt Chinn has posted his comment on being banned.
It is worth reading. See it on GCF (goliath's colisseum forum)
Here: http://goliath-s-colisseum-forum.987000.n3.nabble.com/Today-I-was-banned-on-the-Clark-County-Chatter-td3312342.html
7PM********************************************
Matt Chinn has made a couple of comments. As far as we know, he has not
been told what rule he broke by his fact based arguments with Mike Hutt.
Further...Apparently Brian has not received an answer to his questions about why
YMC was banned. Perhaps the closest we will get is "The Professor"'s post on
HT's censorship thread. He states: (in pertinent part) as follows:
"For those who do not wish, for whatever reason, to take your complaint to one of the moderators or administrators, but who choose to complain and moan about something in the open forums on the false assumption that causing a general unrest among the members is the way to solve your personal problem or complaint, I invite you to delete your account and leave. You will not be happy here and will, in the end, have your account closed for violation of our Terms of Use. I'm sure there are other forums and/or blogs where you'd feel more comfortable.
Thanks HT for a great post about censoring those with opposing viewpoints."
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Correspondent Pesty (the original) here to bring you the news. Matt Chinn, one of the very few posters on the Clark County Chatter that actively pleaded the case of the Tom Galligan administration has been BANNED from posting.
We will have more on this issue later, but time constraints at the moment limit us to giving
this information and providing a link to Matt's blog where he shows what happened. Apparently his civilized and polite but probing dialogue with Mike Hutt (who calls himself
"Honest Mike") was too much for either Hutt, or the Chatter administrators, or both.
Here is the link. : http://mattchinn.wordpress.com/2011/09/05/banned-from-the-clark-county-chatter-the-post-that-did-it-all/
After the weekend long discussion over publicizing Survivorquest on the CCC and related issues, they decided
to rid themselves of Matt's always sane, intelligent and polite voice. They may feel momentarily gratified but
I believe that they weaken themselves with such 'purges' . Know this....ruffle the feathers of the 'powers that
be' (or Mike Hutt) and you may well find yourself banned from posting. At GAW, we call it 'foul'. This is
a petty move. It certainly gives credence to the idea often expressed that, despite protests of being an open
community forum, the CCC is merely a Advocacy forum for the Mike Moore campaign. Does the CCC have
PAC status? Should it? Who have they shown a pattern of banning? TG supporters? How many MM supporters have been banned? Is the equivalent conduct of MM supporters chastened in the same way and
manner as the conduct of TG supporters? The answers are clear for anyone who has been paying attention.
I hope the CCC will reconsider it's position and extend an apology and and invitation back to Matt. Otherwise, there is little reason for others to participate in their forum to actually discuss issues that face our
local community.
UPDATE: 1:30 PM LABOR DAY: *********************************
Pesty v 2.O tried to post telling Jules Matt was banned. His post was deleted. I believe other posters are
being deleted and censored. Please feel free to share your story here. It looks like the CCC is going on a
real PURGE. They have the URGE TO PURGE
GOLIATH SAYS: Ironically, I wrote this in reply to Choppergal this morning about one
hour before I found out Matt being banned:
'Sorry you had that trouble CG. And I am going to try and steer us clear of trouble with the CCC"
Young Matt Chinn has posted his comment on being banned.
It is worth reading. See it on GCF (goliath's colisseum forum)
Here: http://goliath-s-colisseum-forum.987000.n3.nabble.com/Today-I-was-banned-on-the-Clark-County-Chatter-td3312342.html
7PM********************************************
Matt Chinn has made a couple of comments. As far as we know, he has not
been told what rule he broke by his fact based arguments with Mike Hutt.
Further...Apparently Brian has not received an answer to his questions about why
YMC was banned. Perhaps the closest we will get is "The Professor"'s post on
HT's censorship thread. He states: (in pertinent part) as follows:
"For those who do not wish, for whatever reason, to take your complaint to one of the moderators or administrators, but who choose to complain and moan about something in the open forums on the false assumption that causing a general unrest among the members is the way to solve your personal problem or complaint, I invite you to delete your account and leave. You will not be happy here and will, in the end, have your account closed for violation of our Terms of Use. I'm sure there are other forums and/or blogs where you'd feel more comfortable.
Thanks HT for a great post about censoring those with opposing viewpoints."
**********************************************************************
Correspondent Pesty (the original) here to bring you the news. Matt Chinn, one of the very few posters on the Clark County Chatter that actively pleaded the case of the Tom Galligan administration has been BANNED from posting.
We will have more on this issue later, but time constraints at the moment limit us to giving
this information and providing a link to Matt's blog where he shows what happened. Apparently his civilized and polite but probing dialogue with Mike Hutt (who calls himself
"Honest Mike") was too much for either Hutt, or the Chatter administrators, or both.
Here is the link. : http://mattchinn.wordpress.com/2011/09/05/banned-from-the-clark-county-chatter-the-post-that-did-it-all/
After the weekend long discussion over publicizing Survivorquest on the CCC and related issues, they decided
to rid themselves of Matt's always sane, intelligent and polite voice. They may feel momentarily gratified but
I believe that they weaken themselves with such 'purges' . Know this....ruffle the feathers of the 'powers that
be' (or Mike Hutt) and you may well find yourself banned from posting. At GAW, we call it 'foul'. This is
a petty move. It certainly gives credence to the idea often expressed that, despite protests of being an open
community forum, the CCC is merely a Advocacy forum for the Mike Moore campaign. Does the CCC have
PAC status? Should it? Who have they shown a pattern of banning? TG supporters? How many MM supporters have been banned? Is the equivalent conduct of MM supporters chastened in the same way and
manner as the conduct of TG supporters? The answers are clear for anyone who has been paying attention.
I hope the CCC will reconsider it's position and extend an apology and and invitation back to Matt. Otherwise, there is little reason for others to participate in their forum to actually discuss issues that face our
local community.
UPDATE: 1:30 PM LABOR DAY: *********************************
Pesty v 2.O tried to post telling Jules Matt was banned. His post was deleted. I believe other posters are
being deleted and censored. Please feel free to share your story here. It looks like the CCC is going on a
real PURGE. They have the URGE TO PURGE
GOLIATH SAYS: Ironically, I wrote this in reply to Choppergal this morning about one
hour before I found out Matt being banned:
'Sorry you had that trouble CG. And I am going to try and steer us clear of trouble with the CCC"
Comments
"Maybe the 24/7 refers to his weight....247 pounds? If so, the scales are a little light..
or maybe his IQ....24 any 7 days of the week?"
How does GG respond to this, she post the word WACK. Yea, that is showing him GG.
Mike Hutt is the last person that should be making fun of someone's weight, or appearance or how disgusting someone's glamour photo would look. Yea Mike Hutt, we all have your number, you are fooling no one.
Honestly, in all reality, what good is a forum for an entire County of people from all walks of life, thoughts and opinions, that dictates everything they say or don't say?
As I have said before, I think I will stick to the forums of open-minded people that are not afraid of a little challenge.
Keepinitreal
Just curious about why Matt Chinn's account has been closed ?? Matt does have a youthful brashness that has probably rubbed some on here the wrong way, but on the same behalf he is an intelligent young man with his own opinions about things, which he is entitled to.
I have never read anything of Matt's that was totally out of line or in bad taste, not that I agree with everything he has written....he can be controversial.
I realize this is a privately owned forum, but personally I'm disappointed in the decision to remove Matt, unless a valid reason can be shown by the moderators or administrators....which will hopefully reply..
It was removed within 5 minutes
Supposedly violates the rules to question the moderators 'in public'.
It is a topic that cannot be openly discussed there. I think this reflects poorly on them but it is their choice. But I have to challenge the idea they run an 'open' forum for the community.
THE PUBLIC BUT PRIVATELY OWNED FORUM THE CLARK COUNTY CHATTER HAS BANNED A MEMBER FOR NO GOOD REASON. PLEASE DO NOT VISIT THE FORUM OR POST UNLESS AND UNTIL THEY PUBLICALLY APOLIGIZE TO MATT CHINN AND REINSTATE HIS MEMBERSHIP.
Okay, so maybe no one will really do this, but they should.
I love Donna, and I find it hard to think that she was behind Matt's "banning"...In fact I highly doubt it...But whoever was responsible I think should reconsider.
But, in any case, it is pointless to speculate and I hope we won't do that here. Matt is the best person to comment on who 'got him'.
Professor just posted this about Censorship:
"For those who do not wish, for whatever reason, to take your complaint to one of the moderators or administrators, but who choose to complain and moan about something in the open forums on the false assumption that causing a general unrest among the members is the way to solve your personal problem or complaint, I invite you to delete your account and leave. You will not be happy here and will, in the end, have your account closed for violation of our Terms of Use. I'm sure there are other forums and/or blogs where you'd feel more comfortable."
I don't care how much you dress up a turd and put nice little bows on it and I don't care how nice and polite you try to come across....some of us can see what this statement really means...
IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT WE DO WHETHER IT IS FAIR OR NOT EITHER STAY AND KISS OUR BUTTS OR LEAVE ON YOUR OWN OR BE BANNED. Yeah..that's real fair.
Keep in mind that GG is the Head Honcho at the CCC. Just sayin..
Nor can they maintain any authority as a neutral unbiased forum if they delete posts that challenge their decisions.
When I look at the Jeffersonville section, it seems like about 90% of the threads are begun by NSHBM. It seems like its just his private web site...like GAW or Batblog...but he has the cover of a team of moderators who squelch anybody who opposes him.
In all honesty I will pass on my judgement until I hear more from GG, Prof2 and YMC on this matter. I will probably only ever hear one side of the story so I guess that is all I will be able to base my judgement on but I can dream. The only thing I have to say right now is that The CCC just got a whole lot less interesting today. That is unfortunate.
Brian Coffman
In response to your comment:
"Nor can they maintain any authority as a neutral unbiased forum if they delete posts that challenge their decisions."
I agree wholeheartedly! I was once a member of the CCC under another name. I can guarantee you that once you challenge their decisions, you are labeled a troublemaker!
I really tryed hard to befriend the moderators. They would start out acting really friendly and seemed to have alot of wisdom and they even gave me advise in a kind way. I am referring to GG and the Professor. But this is the honest truth. Once you questioned them in any way, and I mean both of them, you were out!!
I consider myself very friendly and I can get along with almost anybody. But I saw quickly that there was a clique thing going on, and once I disagreed with one of their special members, I was out.
I was told ahead of time that this would happen, but because I'm the kind of person who would try to get along with everyone, I didn't think it would happen to me. Boy was I wrong.
I hope your friend GG was not a part of the banning of Matt. But if it comes out that she was, try not to feel too bad. Sometimes I take things and people, too much to heart, and then it hurts more than I realized when I have been done wrong.
Oh we do talk about politics every once and a while as well.
Brian Coffman
As of 7:30, no changes.
I'm curious as to what forum rules I actually violated.
I haven't heard or seen anyone defending the CCC on this. I think everyone knows it's wrong.
Brian Coffman
Classy.
Even though the bat-blog is inferior to the GAW News organization.
Also, Matt, about your statement:
"What's amazing is that my reubuttle to Mike Hutt's post was removed, but his remains."
I understand this all too well, for the same thing was done to me. This is their way of having the last word and rubbing it in for everyone to read just "their side of the story"!
Mortal Combat, huh! This should be interesting. LOL
Brian Coffman
Brian Coffman
I'm sure that you realize that most of the conversation recently about the CCC started as a result of the banning of Matt. All of us feeling that he was done so, unjustly. I can't speak for others on here, but for myself I sense something a bit more than confusion on your part. Maybe you aren't being completely forthcoming about your concerns? Of course, I don't know this for sure, but it seems that your first comments sounded a bit defensive.
Well, whatever your reason, remember everyone on here are adults and can choose to read or not to read. That would be a personal decision on their part. So, try not to concern yourself for their motives, no more than we question your motives for not posting on the CCC.