Young Matt Chinn BANNED from the CCC

UPDATE:   11PM******************************************
Young Matt Chinn has posted his comment on being banned.
It is worth reading.  See it  on GCF (goliath's colisseum forum)
Here: http://goliath-s-colisseum-forum.987000.n3.nabble.com/Today-I-was-banned-on-the-Clark-County-Chatter-td3312342.html




7PM********************************************
Matt Chinn has made a couple of comments. As far as we know,  he has not
been told what rule he broke by his fact based arguments with Mike Hutt.
Further...Apparently Brian has not received an answer to his questions about why
YMC was banned.   Perhaps the closest we will get is "The Professor"'s post on
HT's censorship thread.   He states: (in pertinent part) as follows:

"For those who do not wish, for whatever reason, to take your complaint to one of the moderators or administrators, but who choose to complain and moan about something in the open forums on the false assumption that causing a general unrest among the members is the way to solve your personal problem or complaint, I invite you to delete your account and leave. You will not be happy here and will, in the end, have your account closed for violation of our Terms of Use. I'm sure there are other forums and/or blogs where you'd feel more comfortable.

Thanks HT for a great post about censoring those with opposing viewpoints."



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Correspondent Pesty (the original)  here to bring you the news.  Matt Chinn,  one of the very few posters on the Clark County Chatter that actively pleaded the case of the Tom Galligan administration has been BANNED from posting.

We will have more on this issue later,  but time constraints at the moment limit us to giving
this information and providing a link to Matt's blog where he shows what happened.  Apparently his civilized and polite but probing dialogue with Mike Hutt (who calls himself
"Honest Mike")  was too much for either Hutt, or the Chatter administrators, or both.

Here is the link. : http://mattchinn.wordpress.com/2011/09/05/banned-from-the-clark-county-chatter-the-post-that-did-it-all/

After the weekend long discussion over publicizing Survivorquest on the CCC and related issues,  they decided
to rid themselves of Matt's always sane, intelligent and polite voice.   They may feel momentarily gratified but
I believe that they weaken themselves with such 'purges' .   Know this....ruffle the feathers of the 'powers that
be' (or Mike Hutt) and you may well find yourself banned from posting.   At GAW,  we call it  'foul'.  This is
a petty move.   It certainly gives credence to the idea often expressed that, despite protests of being an open
community forum,  the CCC is merely a Advocacy forum for the Mike Moore campaign.  Does the CCC have
PAC status? Should it?   Who have they shown  a pattern of banning?  TG supporters?  How many MM supporters have been banned?   Is the equivalent conduct of MM supporters chastened in the same way and
manner as the conduct of TG supporters?   The answers are clear for anyone who has been paying attention.

I hope the CCC will reconsider it's position and extend an apology and and invitation back to Matt.  Otherwise,  there is little reason for others to participate in their forum to actually discuss issues that face our
local community.
UPDATE:  1:30 PM LABOR DAY: *********************************

Pesty v 2.O  tried to post telling Jules Matt was banned.  His post was deleted.   I believe other posters are
being deleted and censored.  Please feel free to share your story here.  It looks like the CCC is going on a
real PURGE.    They have the URGE TO PURGE

GOLIATH SAYS:   Ironically,  I wrote this in reply to Choppergal this morning about one
hour before I found out Matt being banned:

'Sorry you had that trouble CG. And I am going to try and steer us clear of trouble with the CCC"

Comments

Lisa Smith said…
Once again, they are trying to prove that it is "their" private forum to do with as they wish, which is true. They have "banned" so many people since I was banned and they give their generic answer "did not adhere to the terms of use" bs because that is all they have. Shame on them!!
Lisa Smith said…
Mike Hutt making personal attacks once again on someone's appearance. Referring to Tom Galligan's 24/7 campaign promise:

"Maybe the 24/7 refers to his weight....247 pounds? If so, the scales are a little light..

or maybe his IQ....24 any 7 days of the week?"

How does GG respond to this, she post the word WACK. Yea, that is showing him GG.

Mike Hutt is the last person that should be making fun of someone's weight, or appearance or how disgusting someone's glamour photo would look. Yea Mike Hutt, we all have your number, you are fooling no one.
keepinitreal said…
Instead of Clark County Chatter, I think they should rename it, "All those in favor of Mike Moore, sign on"! Oh, and add, "Don't cross the line with Mike Hutt or any of Mike Moores follower's or you are a goner! LOL

Honestly, in all reality, what good is a forum for an entire County of people from all walks of life, thoughts and opinions, that dictates everything they say or don't say?

As I have said before, I think I will stick to the forums of open-minded people that are not afraid of a little challenge.

Keepinitreal
~ChopperWoman~ said…
Wow! I am disappointed to hear this.
hoosiertaxpayer said…
I posted this as new topic on the CCC Young Matt Chinn - Why was his account closed ???


Just curious about why Matt Chinn's account has been closed ?? Matt does have a youthful brashness that has probably rubbed some on here the wrong way, but on the same behalf he is an intelligent young man with his own opinions about things, which he is entitled to.

I have never read anything of Matt's that was totally out of line or in bad taste, not that I agree with everything he has written....he can be controversial.

I realize this is a privately owned forum, but personally I'm disappointed in the decision to remove Matt, unless a valid reason can be shown by the moderators or administrators....which will hopefully reply..

It was removed within 5 minutes
Anonymous said…
Me too, I liked going back and forth with Matt, he was always respectful to me even though he was wrong most the time. lol
Anonymous said…
Clark County Chatter, why did you take Ht's post down??? Are you ashamed for what you did? HT is a loyal follower and you are now disrespecting him, not good. not good at all.
Goliath said…
HT...that was similar to what happened when I asked why his post about survivorquest was removed.

Supposedly violates the rules to question the moderators 'in public'.

It is a topic that cannot be openly discussed there. I think this reflects poorly on them but it is their choice. But I have to challenge the idea they run an 'open' forum for the community.
Anonymous said…
Once again, yes it is their choice, but they are making bad choices. I say we boycott the Clark County Chatter until they reinstate Matt's Membership. I am asking everyone to post this on their facebook pages.

THE PUBLIC BUT PRIVATELY OWNED FORUM THE CLARK COUNTY CHATTER HAS BANNED A MEMBER FOR NO GOOD REASON. PLEASE DO NOT VISIT THE FORUM OR POST UNLESS AND UNTIL THEY PUBLICALLY APOLIGIZE TO MATT CHINN AND REINSTATE HIS MEMBERSHIP.

Okay, so maybe no one will really do this, but they should.
~ChopperWoman~ said…
HT I tried to reply to your thread and got the message "you do not have permission to use this feature". For a moment I thought, "I don't? OMG have I been banned too?". But then I went back out to the main Jeff forum page and saw that your thread had been removed while I was reading and responding to it.
Anonymous said…
Don't worry CG..you are big time Mike Moore supporter, you are safe and will never be banned.
Goliath said…
I don't know what to think about the boycott idea. I notice that the Chatter isn't thriving like it use to anyway. NS turns many people off. This time it's too much.
Lisa Smith said…
I agree Goliath. When it was first started the Administrators used to be on a warning system, which I thought was a little juvenile, but it worked. Then they started cheating on that by banning people without warning and most certainly did not go by their own rules. The new Administrators have taken an even harsher turn by banning people that tend to do absolutely nothing that warrants being banned?? I am afraid they are going to be left with just a handful of people who have agreed to surrender and play their games. By the way Goliath, you don't pity me..do you???? lol
Goliath said…
Pity AN? You don't look like you need any help...or pity from me. LOL.
Jules said…
I didn't realize when I made my post in regards to MC, that he'd been banned!!...Oooops...But, in my mind that just gives more credence to what I said...Not to me personally, but to Matt.

I love Donna, and I find it hard to think that she was behind Matt's "banning"...In fact I highly doubt it...But whoever was responsible I think should reconsider.
Lisa Smith said…
Jules, with all due respect I guarantee you Donna was behind Matt's banning. She may be a wonderful person but when it comes to her CCC all bet's are off. This is something in her life that she values and it makes her feel important so anyone trying to mess with that is gonna have to overlook the Donna and realize that GrumpyGranny can be ruthless if she has to. Hey, it's a dog-eat-dog world out there.
Goliath said…
I, like Jules, doubt that it was GG.
But, in any case, it is pointless to speculate and I hope we won't do that here. Matt is the best person to comment on who 'got him'.
Lisa Smith said…
Speculation runs rampant on all of the blogs and forums Goliath.

Professor just posted this about Censorship:

"For those who do not wish, for whatever reason, to take your complaint to one of the moderators or administrators, but who choose to complain and moan about something in the open forums on the false assumption that causing a general unrest among the members is the way to solve your personal problem or complaint, I invite you to delete your account and leave. You will not be happy here and will, in the end, have your account closed for violation of our Terms of Use. I'm sure there are other forums and/or blogs where you'd feel more comfortable."

I don't care how much you dress up a turd and put nice little bows on it and I don't care how nice and polite you try to come across....some of us can see what this statement really means...

IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT WE DO WHETHER IT IS FAIR OR NOT EITHER STAY AND KISS OUR BUTTS OR LEAVE ON YOUR OWN OR BE BANNED. Yeah..that's real fair.

Keep in mind that GG is the Head Honcho at the CCC. Just sayin..
Goliath said…
I don't believe GG banned Matt. But, doesn't matter who did it. Their problem is that I don't think they credibly call themselves an open public forum if they kick someone off for what Matt said or posted.

Nor can they maintain any authority as a neutral unbiased forum if they delete posts that challenge their decisions.

When I look at the Jeffersonville section, it seems like about 90% of the threads are begun by NSHBM. It seems like its just his private web site...like GAW or Batblog...but he has the cover of a team of moderators who squelch anybody who opposes him.
Anonymous said…
This really sucks. Now that YMC has been banned from The CCC he has more time to devote to Goliath's Survivor Quest.

In all honesty I will pass on my judgement until I hear more from GG, Prof2 and YMC on this matter. I will probably only ever hear one side of the story so I guess that is all I will be able to base my judgement on but I can dream. The only thing I have to say right now is that The CCC just got a whole lot less interesting today. That is unfortunate.

Brian Coffman
keepinitreal said…
Goliath,

In response to your comment:

"Nor can they maintain any authority as a neutral unbiased forum if they delete posts that challenge their decisions."

I agree wholeheartedly! I was once a member of the CCC under another name. I can guarantee you that once you challenge their decisions, you are labeled a troublemaker!

I really tryed hard to befriend the moderators. They would start out acting really friendly and seemed to have alot of wisdom and they even gave me advise in a kind way. I am referring to GG and the Professor. But this is the honest truth. Once you questioned them in any way, and I mean both of them, you were out!!

I consider myself very friendly and I can get along with almost anybody. But I saw quickly that there was a clique thing going on, and once I disagreed with one of their special members, I was out.

I was told ahead of time that this would happen, but because I'm the kind of person who would try to get along with everyone, I didn't think it would happen to me. Boy was I wrong.

I hope your friend GG was not a part of the banning of Matt. But if it comes out that she was, try not to feel too bad. Sometimes I take things and people, too much to heart, and then it hurts more than I realized when I have been done wrong.
~ChopperWoman~ said…
I took my complaint about the "credibility" comments made a bout Matt to the Prof. He said they are dealing with it. He would not say why Matt was banned other than breaking the terms of service.
Anonymous said…
ah yes...the good ole standby excuse..."breaking the terms of service"...
Anonymous said…
Keepinitreal you should really like it here on Goliath's forum. We are just starting our cliques. They are called Team Cool and Team Awesome. You should have fun following our antics. As far as any real Cliques I am not sure they exist here. AbbysNana is liable to call me a moron any moment now and Cidiloohoo will agree with her for once. YMC and his girlfriend Liberal Hussy are pitted against each other in mortal combat and we are in general much more exciting than reading about the latest way that NSBHM is bashing our current elected officials.

Oh we do talk about politics every once and a while as well.

Brian Coffman
Anonymous said…
I bet Hutt is happy. He got a 22 year old kid banned. Big night at Jerry's!
Anonymous said…
Funny thing is, I remember a certain GG telling someone one time that she couldn't stand Mike Hutt, of course she said the same thing about one of her fellow Chatter Chicks too, KC...funny how she allows Hutt to run her forum though.
Matthew said…
What's amazing is that my reubuttle to Mike Hutt's post was removed, but his remains.

As of 7:30, no changes.

I'm curious as to what forum rules I actually violated.
Goliath said…
I assumed they told you before cutting you off. Yeah Hutt is still on there with his posts including yours and including his juvenile one commenting on TG's weight.

I haven't heard or seen anyone defending the CCC on this. I think everyone knows it's wrong.
Matthew said…
Will someone, Pesty, Brian or HT ask NSBHM's thoughts on this issue?
Anonymous said…
I just got an email from a friend of mine who posts regularly on The Chatter. She emailed me to tell me that she thinks what they did to Matt was wrong. She was unaware of what had happened until CW told her in reply to a post she made today on The CCC. Anyway, she made a rather rude remark regarding NSBHM's weight in reply to his comment about The Mayor's weight. She advised that she will keep us informed of any repucussions headed her way.

Brian Coffman
Goliath said…
Pesty V 2.0 has sought NS's opinion on the matter.
Matthew said…
I hear my past has caught up with me again on there.
Classy.
Matthew said…
Really appreciate all the love. Especially from HT.

Even though the bat-blog is inferior to the GAW News organization.
Goliath said…
YMC- In looking at your exchange with NS, I still cannot really understand what is 'wrong' with it. What is your understanding of what RULE you broke?
keepinitreal said…
Thanks Brian for making me laugh!! The part about Abbysnana and "C"!! I've actually been following your team's! Goliath really knows how to make blogging more interesting. As far as cliques go, I don't think you all fit into that category. Those are for close-minded, "we are the only one's right", kind of people. No, you all are pretty cool. I think I will stick around here for a while!

Also, Matt, about your statement:

"What's amazing is that my reubuttle to Mike Hutt's post was removed, but his remains."

I understand this all too well, for the same thing was done to me. This is their way of having the last word and rubbing it in for everyone to read just "their side of the story"!

Mortal Combat, huh! This should be interesting. LOL
Anonymous said…
I bet heavily on Liberal Hussy when she was 10 to 1. I like that bet more and more every day.

Brian Coffman
SquarePeg said…
I'm confused. If everyone so dislikes what goes on at CCC, why do you go there? It is, as best I understand it a privately owned forum, just as this one is. I don't post there because I choose not to. I also don't visit other forums or blogs that I disagree with. Pretty simple to me. If you don't like it, don't look at it.
Anonymous said…
Square Peg you have a very valid point. I am probably going to be taking you up on your advice. I actually go there to read the posts of some of the people I like. To be honest with you I could quit going there all together and the only poster that I would miss would probably be Southern Man. He has some good ideas but he does not come here to talk like the rest of the people who I read on The CCC. I would probably not miss it at all. I think I will do that. That is good advice.

Brian Coffman
Lisa Smith said…
If everyone just runs away with tail between legs, then new potential members will have to go through the same crap. I think it is best to let everyone know they are not going to get a fair shake on the CCC. The same thing does happen on my forum and blog SP, many love to criticize and be judgmental, but I am not forcing them to read. But I do not ban people either for having their say. That is the difference.
Lisa Smith said…
I agree Brian, everyone needs to take anonymous up on their advice, BOYCOTT the CCC. Maybe their few advertisers they have will notice that it is becoming very unpopular and stop wasting their money. I will start passing the Boycott information on my facebook and encourage all my friends and family to do the same. Let's help them keep their Privately Owned Forum, just for the 5 or 6 that run it anyway.
SquarePeg said…
Kinda contradicting on your posts aren't you? Don't run tail between your legs, but boycott? Just don't put yourself through it if you don't like it. Let new members make up their own minds.
Goliath said…
Square Peg, what you say is very sensible. Several people here have a history there that goes back to old EN forum and you get used to a forum just like a restaraunt that is familiar. This is augmented by the fact of the oft proclaimed "we are a public forum serving the whole community". But, I have taken hiatuses from the CCC before and likely again.
Lisa Smith said…
Square Peg..let me explain this to you in a way you might understand. Do not run away with your tail between your legs in this instance meant don't just stay silent and let them get away with this. Boycotting in this instance means telling everyone to stop posting and stop advertising there until they change their ways and especially until they allow Matt back on. Comprende???
Lisa Smith said…
Don't worry CLH will arise on the scene again soon, she will take care of all the nastiness. lol She keeps a jar of whoop ass just sitting by the bed.
Goliath said…
Survivor Quest about to start up again.
Lisa Smith said…
YAY!! BRING IT...SO MUCH FUNNER THAN ALL THIS OTHER CRAPOLA!!
keepinitreal said…
Square Peg, I can assure you, it won't take new members long to learn the CCC's "unwritten rules". It is kind of sad that a forum such as the CCC, has gradually assumed a bad reputation. It could be used in a positive way. I don't know where it started going wrong, because I wasn't on their long before I myself, was banned.

I'm sure that you realize that most of the conversation recently about the CCC started as a result of the banning of Matt. All of us feeling that he was done so, unjustly. I can't speak for others on here, but for myself I sense something a bit more than confusion on your part. Maybe you aren't being completely forthcoming about your concerns? Of course, I don't know this for sure, but it seems that your first comments sounded a bit defensive.

Well, whatever your reason, remember everyone on here are adults and can choose to read or not to read. That would be a personal decision on their part. So, try not to concern yourself for their motives, no more than we question your motives for not posting on the CCC.
SquarePeg said…
Thanks for your advice.

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